Showing posts with label thyroxine. Show all posts
Showing posts with label thyroxine. Show all posts

Wednesday, 21 November 2012

A story from the front line of providing volunteer patient phone support


As many of you know I provide volunteer phone support for thyroid patients.

It’s not something I particularly wanted to do but when I offered myself as a volunteer local co-ordinator to the British Thyroid Foundation, which I did because I was ill and needed a support group in my area and there wasn’t one so I was determined to set one up, it turned out that part of the role was to have my number listed and to take calls. It didn’t appear to be negotiable.

Anyway, I get on average one call a day, sometimes more, sometimes none, and I’d much prefer to be able to manage the time I spend on it it, so that I was only “on call” as it were, say once a month for half a day, or once a week for an hour or two, (I do a lot of other stuff for BTF, it’s all time consuming) but the charity don’t have the resources to set up such a system so instead they list phone numbers for all the different volunteers around the country and people needing help take pot luck ringing these numbers and hope they catch someone at home and able to support them. The list says if there are particular times people are most likely to be available and also what conditions they can talk about from personal experience.

I find that I appear to be providing a valuable service - I think literally everyone I’ve spoken to so far (I’m guessing 500+ individuals) seems incredibly grateful and tells me I have been helpful - and the people who ring are generally so lovely and often so distressed that it seems to be an important thing to continue with.  

Earlier today I spoke to a lovely lady on phone, she has been feeling very tired and unwell for several months, describing lots of symptoms that sound like hypothyroidism but could of course be something else. Her doctor has been monitoring her TSH for 6 months and says he expects that she will soon need thyroxine but he will not prescribe it until she has gone above a TSH reading of 6.9. He has not offered to do ANY other tests (not even T4 to see if that is low in the range, never mind B12, Vit D, calcium, iron, etc...). Her latest blood test results say that her TSH has come down rather than gone up, still around the five point something mark. She still feels rotten.  

Her doctor apparently told her nothing can be done, she's getting old, at 47, and just has to live with feeling crap!  

This is sadly not an untypical call for me. What can I advise? Some GPs may be inclined to give a trial of thyroxine with the symptoms and TSH reading described. It’s a judgement call. If they’re not going to do that - and it is not by any means necessarily the best thing to do as prescribing thyroxine when it’s not needed can cause all sorts of problems - my understanding is that they should certainly be looking for other causes of the symptoms.  I told her that.

I had in fact spoken to her previously and sent her a leaflet I have, about how to talk to doctors, as I know that sometimes you have to be smart with your communication skills to get a doctor to listen to you and be on your side and she had expressed difficulty in getting the man to listen to her before.  On this conversation we agreed that it sounded like she had tried to do everything right on the communications front. She had been clear and specific and non aggressive.

The lady reported that her doctor seems concerned about the cost of everything and unwilling to listen. She described feeling that he just wasn’t interested in her symptoms.

She said she was considering going private because her quality of life is so badly affected and she is desperate to get some treatment that will help.  I hear this a lot from people. It breaks my heart.

I said that she is entitled to a good quality of care on the NHS and shouldn't have to go private. I said I felt the doctor wasn’t following best practice if she didn’t feel she was being taken seriously. I told her it sounded totally unreasonable to me for her to be told she is “getting old” and can’t expect to feel well now she has reached the age of 47 (that’s not “old” is it??). I said that it was not reasonable in my opinion that the doctor was not conducting further investigations to get to the root of the problem. I told her that there are moves afoot in the NHS, with the reorganisation and strengthening of the NHS Constitution, to make doctors more accountable for the service they give their patients and that really it would be a good thing to give some feedback to the practice manager or the PCT as if the doctor doesn't get any feedback he may not realise the negative impact he is having, but that I understood she probably didn’t feel up to going down that route. Complaining is a very scary thing to do when you feel unwell. I know. See my earlier post on this subject.

Ultimately I told her that she is entitled to both further investigations and a second opinion and I would advise her to ask to see someone else - either another GP at that practice or through a referral to a specialist - and that if there isn’t a GP at her practice that she feels will listen to her, if I was her I would be seriously considering switching GP.  She was concerned that another GP at the same practice would likely “side with” his colleague. I hear this concern time and time again from people who ring me. I guess it depends on the individual doctors whether that will apply or not, but the fear amongst patients seems very common. 

She thanked me a lot.  She said the information I was able to share was helpful and that it was reassuring to have someone listen to her concerns. She will talk to her husband and decide what to do from there.

I felt so cross on her behalf I came off the phone and sent a tweet about it.....
 @lojinks: “just spoke to a lovely lady on phone, feeling very tired and unwell, doctor tells her she's getting old at 47 and just has to live with it!”
My next post will show how a conversation then developed on twitter, with both health professionals and patients commenting. It was very illuminating and I’m hopeful that as well as connecting with other patients online I may have made some valuable new contacts within our healthcare system, with whom it will be worth engaging further with, with a view to sharing insights and working towards positive changes for patients with chronic illnesses (not just thyroid patients)

Relevant hashtags are:

 #nhbpm (yes I’m still trying to keep up with this WEGO Health campaign, posting more in November than I usually do, though I haven’t managed every day!)

and #NHSChange (a new conversation I discovered today, check it out)

I’ve written enough for one day but have much, much more to say– will follow up soon. Tomorrow if I can manage it. 

Au revoire for now, my lovelies. If this story has struck a chord for you I’d love to hear your thoughts. 

Monday, 23 July 2012

Experiences with T3 treatment - part two

As I write this I have a few misgivings. I don't really know what's going on you see. I can only share my own personal experiences and I don't want to mislead anyone and the fact is, at the risk of repeating myself, I really don't know what's really happening with me at the  moment.

However, I promised an update on the T3 situation so here it is. How things appear to stand, right now.

If you haven't read Part One then you probably need to, or this post won't make much sense.

As reported in Part One, on reducing my T3 meds initially I didn't really feel a difference. I was surprised and delighted. As the days went by I noted that really there seemed to be no change. I didn't feel 100% normal but I didn't feel worse than before the change. So far so good.

But over time I began to wonder if my brain had become a little more foggy..... I'm still wondering that.... but I don't know...it's hard to tell.  I am learning that for me thyroid symptoms are subtle and changes take a long time to become apparent.

I have a belief that perhaps T3 medicine helps my brain function more clearly. Partly this is based on my memory of when I started taking T3 alongside thyroxine.  I remember our first British Thyroid Foundation London event back in April 2011 which was a just a day after I started taking 20mcg daily of T3 (for almost a year prior to that I had been on 10mcg which I thought had helped me, but maybe not that much), I was thrilled at the time by how much more energetic and on the ball I felt during that event and yet I noticed that although I was able to stand up straight and talk coherently and manage the event effectively, my brain felt like total mush during Mark Vanderpump's presentation, I literally couldn't absorb information, nothing stuck, facts just bounced off me and it was like I was an untuned TV or something, kind of full of static!

Here I am welcoming everyone to our first event in #April 2011, Judith Taylor and Mark Vanderpump seated on right

But then when we did our next event, when I had been on the increased dose for a while, my brain was working fine, I could understand what was being said easily, as well as doing the stuff I needed to do to make the event go smoothly. I was so happy, I felt close to normal and people there commented that I seemed so much better. 

Sadly I then had my thyroxine reduced (which seemed like a good idea at the time as I believed it was the T3 that was  helping me and with a TSH of less than 0.05 it seemed reasonable to aim to get that up a bit, to avoid long term bone and heart problems) and slowly over the next few months I ended up seriously mushy brained again. Sigh.

Those events are not my only two frames of reference but for me they seem meaningful. Maybe they are, maybe they're not.  The truth is an elusive animal. Evidence can be misleading. There is the whole Vit D scenario to consider, as outlined in previous posts.  Writing this post has made me think it is worth reconsidering the timeline of events and symptom changes to consider whether there are other factors I should be more mindful of.

Anyway, back to 2012 and my new endo recommending we reduce the T3 and see how we go, on the proviso that if I feel worse I get to go back to the original dose. It's now more than 2 months since the initial reduction. I'm now concerned that I seem to be in a bit of a daze. I have been ultra slow responding to comments on this blog, I have been short of work yet not felt able to summon the mental focus to do much about looking for more. I've felt muddled  and slow when doing the work I've had. I had a job interview and was very rambly and waffly in it (which seems like a sign my brain is foggy though could simply be I am out of practice since it was my first interview in 5 years). I feel I have been unbelievably slow and disorganised around my British  Thyroid Foundation admin and communications. Housework and hairwashing have felt like major tasks.

Yet on the positive side, I have lost more than half a stone (this is likely due to dietary changes which I will write about separately) and I am taking regular exercise! Actual exercise!! I'm playing badminton once a week and also going to weekly yoga and tai chi classes. The badminton is quite a full on aerobic work out, but I am  playing with ladies who are all older than me (it's a daytime club so most of my fellow players are retired and we are all women), so it's not as full on as it could be, but it is a proper work out. The yoga and tai chi are both super gentle, also mostly retired ladies in the classes, but the teachers are excellent and I can feel the benefits already. I actually feel quite confident that I am going to be able to increase my physical exercise and fitness levels over the coming weeks and months. Gently does it, pacing myself carefully. Avoiding the classic chronically ill person's pattern of doing too much as soon as I feel better and then knocking myself back.

So, to cut a long story short, am I better or worse??? I don't really know!!

I had more blood tests at the start of June and finally got the results this week (NOT impressed with that time delay thank you, Kent NHS). My new endo has now suggested that I cut out the T3 meds entirely until my next appointment with him in September. Basically the original dosage cut has not really impacted any of my numbers. TSH is still less than 0.05, T4 and T3 are still right at the upper end of the range, in fact they have both increased slightly.  I have decided to follow his advice. Today is day four of thyroxine only. I don't feel worse, I don't feel better, but experience so far tells me that it will be a while before I can really assess the impact. Trusting that he will let me go back on it if I am worse when I see  him next, or if I really feel worse in the meantime, watch this space.....wish me luck!

As always comments are positively encouraged, I'd particularly love to hear how other people have got on with T3 treatment, or just generally compare notes with other thyroid patients, or those suffering from other chronic illnesses

sendiing smiles :)